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【Dubnation翻译】Reddit热帖——库汤追三人组已取得365胜113负

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The combination of Draymond Green, Klay Thompson and Stephen Curry are 365-113

Dubnation翻译】Reddit热帖——库汤追三人组已取得365113

Title:The combination of Draymond Green, Klay Thompson and Stephen Curry are 365-113 (.764 win percentage) in games they have played together in their careers. That is the highest win percentage by any trio in NBA history (min. 400 games)

标题:库里、汤普森和格林的三人组合职业生涯同时出战的比赛战绩为365113负,胜率是76.4%。在NBA历史上,这是所有三人组取得的最高胜率(至少出战400场)。

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WhoNeedsAWholeBagel:My guys are definitely getting statues

有一说一,这哥仨肯定能立上雕像。

Eagerbeaver98:Has any team actually had a statue for their star player other than michael jordan at the united center?

不懂就问,除了迈克尔-乔丹在联合中心那个,还有哪些球队真的为自家明星球员立了雕像?

Yomminator:Jerry West, Kareem, Shaq, Magic, Elgin Baylor and Chick Hearn have them outside staples

湖人而论,Logo,天勾,鲨鱼,魔术师,贝勒爷和奇克-赫恩[]是有雕像的,在斯台普斯门口。

[] 奇克-赫恩(Chick Hearn1916-2002),湖人队传奇解说员。

assistanmanager:I hope they go with the fade-away j for Kobe or standing on the scorers table next to chick after beating the Celtics.

我希望能给科比的雕像整个后仰跳投的动作,或者是10年击败凯尔特人夺冠的时候,他站在技术台上张开双臂的场面。

 

【Dubnation翻译】Reddit热帖——库汤追三人组已取得365胜113负


spiraldrain:I heard a rumor it might be an assist to Shaq’s statue. I don’t know how it’ll be executed though.

有传言说科比雕像可能会做成给沙克雕像的一个助攻。不过我是想象不了这得咋整出来。

jameshardenisjacked:I feel like Kobe would rather have his own standalone statue

我觉得科比只想拥有完全属于他自己的雕像。

jbrooks772:Yes.

 

Pippen also has a statue at the United Center.

 

Russell and Bird have statues in Boston.

 

Both Wilt and Erving have a statue in Philly.

 

Malone and Stockon have statues in Utah.

 

Wilkins has a statue in Atlanta.

 

Mikan has a statue in Minnesota.

是滴。皮蓬在联合中心有雕像。拉塞尔和伯德在波士顿有雕像。张伯伦和J博士在费城有雕像。马龙和斯托克顿在犹他有雕像。威尔金斯在亚特兰大有雕像。麦肯在明尼苏达有雕像。

jat275:Jazz have Malone and Stockton

爵士把马龙和斯托克顿的两座雕像放在了一起。

jordank94:There is like 6 or 7 at staples

光斯台普斯就有6-7个好吗。

dUbg44:Yes Shaq has one

是的,沙克就有个雕像。

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AloofBalloon:All drafted by the same team, too.

 

I know Warriors get that hate, some of it warranted, but respect that shit. You got to.

他们也都是勇士自己选出来培养的。我知道勇士比较招人厌,这很正常,但你还是要对这些讨厌的家伙保持尊重。

testenth1:Yep, they did an unbelievable job drafting and building a culture. They did kind of luck into KD because of the crazy 1 year cap spike, but he could have gone anywhere. He chose them because of what they built and the organization.

那可不,在选秀和建设球队文化方面,他们的成就着实了不起。他们得到KD确实有一点运气成分,因为那一年工资帽的疯涨,但是KD其实可以去任何球队。KD最终选择了他们,正是因为球队的文化建设和团队氛围。

IPA_FAN:And nobody on the warriors convinced anyone to demand a trade to go there.  Kawii and pg13 going to LA together will always be a weaker move than the Heatles teaming up or warriors signing KD in my admittedly bias opinion.

Throw AD in there too.  Don't sign long term deals if you're not going to play it out.

JR甲:而且勇士可没有引诱谁要求交易来这里。我承认我就是有偏见,但在我这,相比热火组成三巨头,或者勇士签下KD的操作,小卡和泡椒在洛杉矶联手是更显懦弱的球员换队行为。

AD也是如此。如果不想在这打下去,那就不要签长约。

XolorJZ:Warriors signing KD was never a weak move by the warriors. KD choosing to go to the Warriors on the other hand... probably on par with or slightly worse than Kawhi and PG.

JR乙:签下KD对于勇士来说从不是什么软弱的操作。不过另一方面…KD选择勇士和小卡泡椒的行为相比应该算是不分伯仲,甚至有过之而无不及。

IPA_FAN:I guess that's how things could be from now on. Maxed franchise players can force trades so they can team up with the best FA every summer.  Feels weird to me.

JR甲:我觉得这可能会形成一种潮流。顶薪球员们可以强制交易从而与每年夏天最好的自由球员组队。在我看来这太诡异了。

mdzealot:It is undoubtedly worse.

毫无疑问,这会让联盟风气更加糟糕。

AJC3317:I dont see how signing somewhere as a free agent is worse than demanding a trade 1 year into a long term deal where you had "unfinished business"

我觉得在自由市场签约不如刚续约一年就要求交易显得过分,毕竟你还有“未竟的事业”。

XolorJZ:Probably but I was being conservative since I fucking hate KD and didn’t want to show my bias.

JR乙:可能因为我他娘的就是讨厌KD并且不想表现出我的双标,所以才这么认为的吧。

amd77767:At least KD finished his contract instead of demanding a trade mid-contract.

至少KD履行完了合同,他可没在合同中期要求交易。

MarkHoppusJr:IMO GSW is like the less talented but more successful version of OKC. 1 DPOY, 1 MVP, 1 Klay vs 3 MVPs.

That rivalry woulda been so nice had Durant stayed and they retain Harden.

我觉着库汤追就是天赋更低但是成就更高的雷霆三少。一位DPOY,一位MVP再加上克莱对上3MVP

如果杜兰特留队,再留下哈登,这个对决会很好看,可惜留不得。

Charlie_Wax:I'm gonna sound like a homer, but I think the GSW guys are "winners" whereas the other guys aren't necessarily. I don't think Westbrook's play style is conducive to playoff success and his career doesn't suggest otherwise. Inefficient scorer. Lacks composure in high-pressure situations. Likewise, Harden is an absolute scoring machine, but he doesn't bring much defensively and he has thus far failed to take over a big series when it matters most. He doesn't really have a signature playoff win in his career. Honestly, he has folded up in some big games where he could've cemented his legacy. KD is the best of the bunch and (IMO) the reason why they were contenders, but he wasn't enough.

 

Defense is underrated by casual fans and Klay/Dray add a lot of value there compared to the OKC guys. Neither is an elite iso scorer, but Klay can be a better playoff scorer than Russ with the ability to guard 1-3 and Dray is just a defensive monster with good playmaking capabilities.

 

So I don't agree that they're "less talented", I just think the things they do are different. Klay is a better shooter than Russ or even James, and a better defender. Dray is a better defender than any of them. Those are talents, just not the flashy ones that get headlines.

接下来我可能会特别啰嗦,但是我真觉得不管别的队友啥样勇士哥仨总会赢。我觉得威少的比赛风格并不适合季后赛,而他的职业生涯证明了这一点。得分效率低下,关键时刻不够冷静。同样的,哈登确实是个得分机器,但是他防守不行,至今也没能在关键时刻接管什么重大的系列赛。他的职业生涯确实没啥代表性的季后赛胜利。讲道理,在一些关键的能证明自己的比赛里他却隐身了。KD是他们中最好的那个,而且在我看来是他让他们有了竞争力,不过光有他可不行。

普通球迷们总是低估防守的影响,而克莱和追梦相比于雷霆的哥俩有更大的价值。俩人虽然都不是那种超级单打得分手,但是季后赛而论克莱比威少更能得分,更何况他还能从一防到三,而追梦在防守端就是个怪物,还有着很好的组织能力。

所以我并不认为他们“不够有天赋”,他们只是在做着不一样的事情。克莱是比威少甚至哈登更好的射手,而且也是更好的防守者。追梦的防守则比其他任何人都强。这些就是实打实的天赋,只不过不是那种能上头条的花里胡哨的天赋而已。

Bigbadbuck:They won 67 and 73 games.... Before adding KD!

KD来之前,他们就已经是67胜和73胜的球队辣!

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fedman21:Surprised Booker/Bender/Jackson isn’t up there

不懂就问,为啥布克、本德尔、杰克逊的的三人组没排上名?

iamadragan:Probably better loss rate than the warriors win rate

呵呵,可能他们的输球率比勇士的赢球率还高吧。

Niners19WinsIn19:Not quite!  They are 23-62 in their 89 games together for a 27.1% win rate vs the Warriors 23.6% lose rate.

The Suns big 3 are slightly better at winning than the Warriors are losing.

放屁!他们共同出战的89场比赛拿下了2362负,胜率27.1%,再看看勇士的输球率,才23.6%

看概率是我日三巨头赢了。

]thecomfycactus:“Big 3” lol

三巨头可把爷整笑了。

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Ev3rythingLiterally:How about the Jordan, pippen, and Rodman trio? What's their stats?

那乔丹皮蓬罗德曼三人组呢?他们是啥数据?

Niners19WinsIn19:86%, but they also didn't even play 2 full seasons worth of games together.

胜率86%,但是他们共同出战的比赛连两个完整的赛季都没有。

Edit:  They played 160 game together, so effectively 2 full seasons.

PS:他们一块打了160场比赛,所以两个完整的赛季还是有的。

mahchefai:Yeah 400 is such an arbitrary limit

也是哈,400场比赛确实要求太高了。

WindLane:Any limit is arbitrary.

所有的条件都这个德行。

Curry, Klay, & Dray have almost 500 games together, it looks like the OP was looking at teams who had about as long a time together.

库汤追已经差不多一块打了五百场,看样子楼主一直关注着那些始终如一的球队。

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Bladex20:So youre saying the dynasty isnt over?

所以你是说勇士王朝还没终结咯?

shanetrey5:Ain’t over till all 3 hang it up

只要他们仨坚持下去,王朝就没有结束。

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1egalizepeace:A little surprised they’re above Duncan/Parker/Ginobili

他们竟然超过了GDP,这可有丶让人惊讶。

LordBalkoth69:They played a longass time and had some relatively “down” seasons.

 

Their records are more for longevity than dominance. I think most wins of a trio by a lot.

他们一起打了很长时间,而且也有一些相对“低迷“的赛季。

他们创造的纪录更多的是关于时间长度而非统治力。我觉得不少三人组在实力上都比他们强。

Niners19WinsIn19:Duncan/Parker/Ginobli were 551-198 for 73.6% so they are a bit lower.

 

Through 478 games they were 346-132 so they fall 19 wins short of the Warriors at the Warriors current mark.

JR丙:GDP取得了551198负,73.6%的胜率,这要比勇士哥仨低一些。

要是取前478场来看的话他们的战绩是346132负,所以比勇士目前的战绩少了19个胜场。

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OnlyMyCouchPullsOut_:I like this kinda shit. Good shit OP

我喜欢这种水帖。这已经是个成熟的优秀水帖了。

YouKnowMyName123:What was TD, TP and MG’s record together? And does anyone know what their record was after 480 games or so?

GDP的记录呢?有人知道他们大概480场比赛之后的记录啥样吗?

Niners19WinsIn19:I mentioned in another comment, but 73.6% for career and 72.4% in their first 478 games.

JR丙:在刚才的回复里我说辣,他们整个生涯的胜率是73.6%,前478场的胜率则是72.4%

EmmitSan:That minimum though, lol

这个前478场的最小值限制,我啸了

jat275:This is impressive, but seems pretty cherry-picked. Minimum 400 games makes it a pretty small group.

这个记录挺引人注目的,就是这个条件有点挑剔。能一同出战400场的太少了。

allinasecond:I agree it should be minimum 200. That's a pretty good sample size. But it's not less impressive this way. Although this trio played with KD, so for a pretty good time of this it was more than a trio.

我觉得应该改成至少200场。这样我们会得到更好的样本容量,且这个表现依旧非常令人佩服。不过这哥仨和KD一块打过,所以在这段王朝岁月里他们可不仅仅是三人组。

[UP:21]SwarleymonLives:Kareem, Magic, Worthy;

 

Bird, McHale, Parish;

 

Duncan, Parker, Manu;

 

Russell, Cousy, Heinsohn, Jones(Sam);

 

Russell, Hondo, and Jones(Sam);

 

Shaq, Kobe, Horry, Fisher, Fox;

And those are just the top tier trios+. The group isn't small.

天勾,魔术师,沃西;伯德,麦克海尔,帕里什;邓肯,帕克,马努;拉塞尔,库西,海因索恩,萨姆-琼斯;拉塞尔,哈弗里切克,萨姆-琼斯;沙克,科比,霍里,费舍尔,福克斯:这些都是顶尖的三人组(或者多于三人),如你所见,人并不少。

 

moneygreen13:I think that makes it more impressive because of the longevity

我觉得正是因为他们在一起的时间之长才会让这个纪录变得引人注目。

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